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Friday, 07 April 2006

An interview with Paul Cohn about Writing and self-publishing

Please give us a little background on your books.

I’ve written two fiction books and one children’s story that was published on a public state radio station at Montana State University. I self-published two books. The first book I do not recommend. It was my first effort. I tried to get it published and sold for three years and couldn’t.

The second book is called Sao Tome. You can read the first chapter at http://saotomethenovel.com/. I tried selling it first by myself to publishers and then I had an agent for six months. She didn’t do much and she couldn’t sell it.  She bailed and then I had another agent for a year and she worked hard for the first 6 months, then bailed. She showed it to a lot of publishers, but they wouldn’t buy it. That’s when I decided to self-publish. Most of the endorsements on the jacket cover are from rejection letters from agents or publishers. The first paragraphs would gush and then the next paragraph would say, "but we won’t buy it."

A friend who has been published has been very helpful in helping me understand the publishing world. The agents and publishers are throwing darts when they reject books. None of their reasons seemed valid, because the reasons they said why they weren’t going to publish the book were things I was getting compliments on. I think they don’t want to take a chance with an unpublished author. I did get one very helpful idea from an agent that made a lot of editors look at it a second time. One agent said it wasn’t sufficiently nuanced. I showed that letter to a published writer and he said the problem with the first chapter is that it starts out like a thriller. Historical novels should have more focus on setting, so he told me to make the setting come alive more and I did. Mainly the changes were in the first chapter. Another editor was helpful. She went through and cited some places where the emotional impact was bland. That was very helpful and I made those changes. I bet the book’s been edited 30 times. A professional editor, a couple of friends, and I have gone through the book and made it better. I read the novel now and I keep finding things I want to change and little typos.

What is your writing process like?

When I was writing I would usually get up at 5 in the morning, have a pot of coffee going and write in my PJs until I was starving. Then I would have breakfast, do some chores and then write again until I ran out of steam. Then I would go running or do something else. Then in the afternoon I would edit.  Most of the time I did my creative writing in the morning.

How did you decide to self-publish?

It was an act of desperation. Self-publishing is a piece of cake these days as far as getting the book printed. With most self-published books your friends buy three copies and you never sell another copy. There are some self-published books that do very well such as the book Eragon written by a 16 year old. But most of the time they do nothing. With the first book, I didn’t know any better. I shouldn’t have published it. The second book is good and I think it will sell. And it is doing fairly well.

How much of the publishing process did you have a hand in?

I did everything. The Gutter ended up too narrow, because the book printing people didn’t give me enough information. Still, it’s very easy to do. My daughter took the cover photo. It’s extraordinary. My daughter and I were in Australia and it’s a picture of the Tasman sea. I saw it and it was a very lonely picture, perfect for the book. An artist friend helped with the cover lay out. Self-publishing is a lot of hard work but it’s pretty straight forward.

What was the most difficult part of the writing and publishing process?

Three years of rejections. It’s a little bit like being an athlete, you’ve just got to keep going until you get to where you want to be. All the rejections forced me to do the rewrites and I think the book will do better because of it. Now the toughest part is waiting for the sales to develop at some reasonable level.

Was there a part that was easier?

The most fun part was writing the first draft. I really got into the story, it just told itself.

What kinds of marketing did you do for your book?

The book has broad appeal, but you have to find a target group. It’s about Jewish and Black history. I have a friend who got the names of people in large synagogues and Black churches. We’ve sent one book to the reading groups at each of these churches. Hopefully they will like it. The local synagogue wrote a wonderful review of it, which I include in the package I send out. There is also a press release with the book.

I also gave a copy to the local library. The librarian liked it enough to recommend it to the book club. They (the library) have been very supportive of my writing.

My business manager came up with the idea to do a referral awards program. We think that will make a big difference in selling the book. People will get excited and tell their friends about it. The person who recommends the books to the most others wins money. You can see it on the website for an explanation.

We’ve also sent a copy of the book to thirty-four reviewers. Most of the reviewers won’t review a book that is out, so we told them it was going to come out in April, even though it already came out in January. This process stinks, too. Of the thirty-four copies we sent out, we've gotten zero reviews.

We’ve sent out 110 books total. Books are cheap. My total cost to publish 2,400 books is $10,000 including having a business manager. But it’s only $1.50 per book plus $1.50  for postage. I think sending out books is the most effective way to get the information out there.

We are going to find out who does the buying for the libraries in large cities and send that person a copy of the book. We also sent one to the Portuguese, Israeli, and Sao Tome embassies since the book involves those places. And we sent notices to the embassies to all the African countries covered in the book. In other cases we sent Jewish organizations a bookmark and a press release. It’s a bit of a crapshoot.

Would you recommend self-publishing to other writers?

No. It’s expensive and the likelihood that you are going to do well is very low. The outfit that did my printing sent me half a dozen or more books that they had surpluses of as examples of the kinds of format and paper they had. For the most part these books were well written and beautiful. I know for a fact that none of them did anything. I have 3,000 copies of my first books in the basement. I didn’t even break even. I did 14 readings in 10 days in the Twin Cites. I probably spent $10,000 on publishing and I bet I spent $8,000 on advertising and travel and the sales just evaporated, so even though I sold 2,000 copies it was not an economic success. In the last seven years it hasn’t sold a single copy.

So for your next book you will try to go the traditional route?

If I decide to write another book it will be a sequel to Sao Tome. People have asked for a sequel. Here’s my point: I am hoping that Sao Tome will do so well that I will have a name for myself and then go ahead with the sequel and have an agent and sell it to a real publisher. I’m not going to start on my next book unless Sao Tome does well.

Do you have any advice for aspiring writers?

Find another writer who is more skilled than you. And who you have very good, open communication with and edit once a week with him. The reason I don’t suggest writing groups is that they can be vicious. I was in one for a while. You are not going to get the kind of editing you want. One-on-one it takes three hours to go over each other’s work. That has been extremely productive for me.

Avoid agents who charge a fee. Be wary of writing contests where they want a submission fee. Look at the economics of it. They are preying on desperate writers and making money on the fees. There is an outfit in Portland, Oregon that does this. In my opinion, Glimmer Train preys on people who want to get published. They charge $25 and at 2,000 entries, they are making substantial profit off of writers.

For reviews and to read the first chapter of Sao Tome go to:

http://saotomethenovel.com/   

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